Saturday, June 09, 2012

The insight of Bruce

The Antinomians are really the only ones who really "get" the doctrine UOJ since the law has no power to make them feel guilty--ever. 


-- Bruce Church


Source: Ichabod, click here.

5 comments:

LPC said...

James Swan,

I have responded to using your email.

Blessings,

LPC

joel in ga said...

Hi Lito,

sometime ago you referenced a terrific paper by Philip Cary on why Luther was not quite Protestant (a paper btw that I alerted a couple of good friends to, who also found the paper delightful--in fact one friend alerted his Calvinist pastor to it, who likewise was impressed). Just wondering how you found Cary's understanding of justification.

LPC said...

Hi Joel,

If I recall the paper showed what Luther did when he was assailed by doubts if he were a Christian believer. Further I recall that in that paper Cary documented Luther's reasoning of why he said to the devil "But I was baptized".

I have to look back, I am not so sure Cary articulated his own understanding of justification but I certainly agree with Luther, in fact I should say I learned from him when he looked back to his baptism, it is attached to Romans 6.

I do recall that Cary did a good job of documenting Luther. BTW, Cary has no dog in this race because Cary happened to be Anglican.

LPC

Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel said...

Bruce says:

"The Antinomians are really the only ones who really "get" the doctrine UOJ since the law has no power to make them feel guilty--ever."

So true, this short description of universal objective justification enthusiasts! By mentally mesmorizing themselves, they tune out their God-given consciences which have been divinely designed to alert our Adamic natures that we are walking on thin ice by willful sin.

UOJ thinking enthusiasts grab hold of their own consciences like a person acting in violent fashion turning upon himself, trying to choke himself to death. No small wonder, when UOJ people attempt to discuss and debate, they are bereft of cognitive content. Their choke holds upon themselves cut off Holy Spirit oxygen to their perverted thinking brains. One thing sure about UOJ enthusiasts. They certainly do excercise their free will - all to their very own souls' spiritual demise and those whom they lead astray........

Pastor emeritus Nathan M. Bickel

www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org

LPC said...

Pr. Nathan,

they tune out their God-given consciences which have been divinely designed to alert our Adamic natures that we are walking on thin ice by willful sin

I am afraid this is quite true, my worry is that it can numb the conscience.
No small wonder, when UOJ people attempt to discuss and debate, they are bereft of cognitive content

We have so many examples of this as we know, some might be found in this blog.

Thanks for those additional fine insights!

LPC