tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.comments2024-02-27T00:11:57.219+11:00Extra NosLPChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comBlogger7469125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-45375430251546427102024-02-27T00:11:57.219+11:002024-02-27T00:11:57.219+11:00I am glad you are dealing with this, Dr. Lito Cruz...I am glad you are dealing with this, Dr. Lito Cruz. Too many clergy cite their secondary, yea even, tertiary sources, and meander back to the Scriptures (often edited for their amusement). Luther, Melanchthon, and Chemnitz argued and explained from the Scriptures, even though they were better than the rest in citing from other works. That is what makes the actual Reformation so powerful in putting down the false teachers.Ichabod the Glory Has Departedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119183283328283096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-30185629895187272342024-02-07T16:11:46.049+11:002024-02-07T16:11:46.049+11:00Pr Greg,
Neo_Lutherans have their precious infall...Pr Greg,<br /><br />Neo_Lutherans have their precious infallible idols. :-)<br /><br />Cults have self proclamations of authenticity, that is common to them.<br /><br />Also John 12:43<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-29233091151844007512024-02-05T13:15:08.969+11:002024-02-05T13:15:08.969+11:00I agree with you, Doc. I would much rather read so...I agree with you, Doc. I would much rather read something based directly on the Scriptures than citations from one or more dogmatic writers who want to cite from Augustine to Walther to the synodical writings. Many Missouri Synod people are allergic to The Errors of Missouri because the LCMS is without sin, errors, or contradiction. That makes them "orthodox," they claim.Ichabod the Glory Has Departedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119183283328283096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-86867741158520189062024-02-05T11:21:53.526+11:002024-02-05T11:21:53.526+11:00Correct, Pr Greg.
Biblical or Exegetical Theology ...Correct, Pr Greg.<br />Biblical or Exegetical Theology as I observe was the priority of Luther and the Lutheran Reformers.<br /><br />When I read some of them, I walk away respecting their perspective because I do see fairness in them. I saw this tradition of fairness in handling the text and the willingness, to grant those whom they may disagree some points if the text does point to them, in the Errors of Missouri. When they spotted Calvinism in the position of Missouri - as someone who toyed with it, I could not help but agree with their critique.<br /><br /><br />LPC LPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-11841589201554880482024-01-11T08:37:27.385+11:002024-01-11T08:37:27.385+11:00Systematic theology books are a way for someone to...Systematic theology books are a way for someone to build a reputation - for others to argue about everything except the Scriptures. Some obvious examples are Karl Barth and his lovely assistant, Paul Tillich and his many affairs, Braaten/Jenson for their blasphemies.<br /><br />Francis Pieper is no better, because he cleverly blended the deceptive and anti-Scripture dogma of Calvinism and Pietism, merging it with some Book of Concord language but favoring Walther overall. Ichabod the Glory Has Departedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119183283328283096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-11190631544675713372024-01-03T13:29:31.537+11:002024-01-03T13:29:31.537+11:00Just saw this Bro James.
Thank you sir for your k...Just saw this Bro James.<br /><br />Thank you sir for your kind words.<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-46364760169032366442023-12-26T07:18:07.678+11:002023-12-26T07:18:07.678+11:00Well thought out and well said. Thanks, Doc. Merry...Well thought out and well said. Thanks, Doc. Merry Christmas!Brother Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14802301500655581496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-58139854244705514532023-12-15T15:02:05.313+11:002023-12-15T15:02:05.313+11:00I spoke to some identifying as Arminians and I fou...I spoke to some identifying as Arminians and I found it puzzling that they do not believe Arminius was influenced by a Lutheran.<br /><br />If you can point me to your postings I would be happy to put in and update my post with your links.<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-42107617577510252462023-12-15T13:03:18.249+11:002023-12-15T13:03:18.249+11:00Why would you say Arminians don't want to admi...Why would you say Arminians don't want to admit Arminius was influenced by Hemmingsen? We brag about the fact. I've share it multiple times.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03881837360049891428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-60886510182476480632023-12-12T10:00:40.180+11:002023-12-12T10:00:40.180+11:00That is indeed true - it was meant to be positive ...That is indeed true - it was meant to be positive affirmation.<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-80151080572837316872023-11-29T21:28:57.186+11:002023-11-29T21:28:57.186+11:00The same is true of Protestant. That was the term ...The same is true of Protestant. That was the term used by the Lutherans at the Speyer Conference, meaning "a positive testimony." The non-Lutherans like to call themselves Evangelicals, Protestants, and Reformed.Ichabod the Glory Has Departedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119183283328283096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-38436365622768595932023-11-01T13:09:45.010+11:002023-11-01T13:09:45.010+11:00Indeed Pr Greg.
Thank you for your comment on this...Indeed Pr Greg.<br />Thank you for your comment on this.<br /><br />Waltherians or NeoLutherans are actually Calvinizing Lutherans.<br />The two are cut from the same cloth.<br />Thus, they wind up in the same destination, eventually when taken to their final conclusion both deteriorate to liberalism as well.<br /><br />LPC<br /><br />LPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-85907866303601581392023-11-01T11:58:26.643+11:002023-11-01T11:58:26.643+11:00Those are good observations. One of the American L...Those are good observations. One of the American Lutherans observed that Calvinism decays into Unitarianism. When denominations are part-Calvin and part-Lutheran, they go downhill in doctrine more slowly, but it is inevitable. <br /><br />WELS and the LCMS are far more involved in Calvinism and Romanism than Lutheran doctrine itself, no matter how loud they squeal when that is pointed out. People who love their Walther tattoos are quick to attack those who believe and teach Justification by Faith. The find the Chief Article of Christianity (not just of Lutherans) to be odious. Ichabod the Glory Has Departedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119183283328283096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-66116671347638752582023-09-12T16:09:35.100+10:002023-09-12T16:09:35.100+10:00Thank you Pr Greg! For blogging on this.
LPCThank you Pr Greg! For blogging on this.<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-45197828035845404342023-09-12T16:08:34.829+10:002023-09-12T16:08:34.829+10:00Thank you Dr Greg. I know we have been touching sl...Thank you Dr Greg. I know we have been touching slightly on this during our Zoom fellowships.<br /><br />I hope more and more get to know what infected them and we can avoid extremes.<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-85237234468725668802023-09-06T12:31:53.226+10:002023-09-06T12:31:53.226+10:00You are very wise, Doc Lito. Everyone should discu...You are very wise, Doc Lito. Everyone should discuss this through your blog. Ichabod the Glory Has Departedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119183283328283096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-73459568614349841382023-08-26T22:05:58.412+10:002023-08-26T22:05:58.412+10:00Thank you, Lito. You are always concise and very c...Thank you, Lito. You are always concise and very clear in your discussions and definitions.Ichabod the Glory Has Departedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119183283328283096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-53311052889232661642022-12-20T07:47:22.995+11:002022-12-20T07:47:22.995+11:00Thañk you for your comment.
Could you give a quot...Thañk you for your comment.<br /><br />Could you give a quote from Walther that illustrates your point?<br /><br />Also, IF does not lead to synergism since faith in Christ is defined as it is defined Biblically.LPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-63220253835006017402022-12-20T06:03:44.292+11:002022-12-20T06:03:44.292+11:00The LCMS does not and has not ever agreed with th...The LCMS does not and has not ever agreed with the predestination of dort nor was Walther absolutely against in veiw of faith he was only against that which led to synergism because synergism is outright condemned in the book of Concord.Learning Lutheranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03215088597998671320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-66607275307774117502022-12-11T19:29:24.790+11:002022-12-11T19:29:24.790+11:00Jean,
If one of your points is that Walther was a...Jean,<br /><br />If one of your points is that Walther was a cultic character, then I am with you on that.<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-4065590254376313272022-12-10T12:49:27.972+11:002022-12-10T12:49:27.972+11:00"We fear certainly with a perfect right, that..."We fear certainly with a perfect right, that the fundamental strong mixing of democratic, independent, congregationalistic principles in your constitution will cause great harm, just as the mixing in of princes and secular authorities in our land has done" - Willem Loehe, 1847, in response to the Ev. Luth. Synod of Missouri, Ohio, and Other States. Jean Jeannitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11707194684626077935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-56591467029750300712022-08-17T07:31:05.727+10:002022-08-17T07:31:05.727+10:00You are welcome God bless you.You are welcome God bless you.LPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-20109962138690201512022-08-17T00:50:36.829+10:002022-08-17T00:50:36.829+10:00Hello Lito!
Thank you for your response!
Cheers!...Hello Lito!<br /><br />Thank you for your response!<br /><br />Cheers!Jorge Luishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923367534285775912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-59122815525725278942022-08-16T16:34:46.862+10:002022-08-16T16:34:46.862+10:00Hi Jorge,
Tha analysis that the Modern Missouri v...Hi Jorge,<br /><br />Tha analysis that the Modern Missouri view is lifted out for the Calvinist Canon of Dort is true and correct!<br />Notice the old Missouri did not use the word "decree" in its understanding of predestination. In fact, it held to the "intuitu fidei" view until Walther came along to revise LC-MS.<br /><br />Once a person views predestination as a decree then it is certainly becomes Calvinistic.<br /><br />I do not know why the LCMS did not write any response to this - we can only guess. Probably because they consider themselves to have won the minds of their people by propaganda. The ones who opposed them were from Iowa and they separated from LCMS.<br /><br />Heresies are like this, it separates people. It upsets the existing peace of the church.<br /><br />LItoLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887169410291453228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-38943041377562803002022-08-16T13:28:54.949+10:002022-08-16T13:28:54.949+10:00Lito,
Please answer the following questions:
Is ...Lito,<br /><br />Please answer the following questions:<br /><br />Is it truth that the Modern Missouri that I quoted above approved the calvinist doctrine of the election that it is written in The Canons of Dort?<br /><br />Why the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod didn't wrote an response to the book "The Error of Modern Missouri"?Jorge Luishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923367534285775912noreply@blogger.com