Sunday, December 16, 2012

Mourning with you

UPDATED:

About 80% of the readers of this blog come from U. S. A.

Dear friends, my heart goes out to you. Like you I am also in pains I feel the hurt with what just happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

My prayers go out to those who have been directly affected by this tragedy.

This is Christmas, it is in general a sweet time for children. This is a terrible tragedy for those parents who lost their kids in this senseless act.

UPDATED:

TURN OFF THE NEWS.......



"Morgan Freeman's" brilliant take on what happened yesterday :

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."




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Apparently Freeman denies ever saying this in his Facebook. I wish he had said it because there is more truth to the above critique than we care to admit. We should give credit to whoever hacked into his account - he might as well, come out and own up to it because there is some brilliant insight in that piece.

LPC


24 comments:

Joe Krohn said...

The USA gave up on the sanctity of life in 1973. Why should this shock anyone? It pales in comparison to the thousands of innocent children who are slaughtered daily in this country. That is the tragedy. Gun control is not the issue...or maybe it is...the right to bear arms is the last thing protecting Americans from the Fourth Reich...I ain't sayin'; just sayin'.

LPC said...

Fair enough if that is your assessment USA is reaping what it sowed.

LPC

Brett Meyer said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB-LtHycKGk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The United States is being manipulated into disarming themselves or being forced to disarm. Just part of the New World Order.

LPC said...

BM,

Yes, I can see the plausibility of this after a bit of reflection.

Because if someone just wants to turn public opinion around, what you do is send off these types of people out and people will see the extreme side of being free to bear arms.

I have seen this happen back home when I was a teenager. President Marcos justified martial law by sending out secret bombers that bombed malls, public gatherings and so on. So when he declared martial law, some people felt it was justified because there was much chaos and so forth. But the story went that it was Marcos all along who plotted the said bombings.

LPC

Joe Krohn said...

In the USA among certain folks that scenario is called a "false flag". It is the oldest trick in the book.

LPC said...

Rigging up is no longer a far fetch idea not to be entertained.

In this age when more degradation is happening in society the human mind will do what it can conceive.

LPC

Brett Meyer said...

As I have been saying, the New World Order is already in place globally. It is meerly a matter of enforcing what has already been established. With the New World Order's political agenda comes their mandatory New World Religion which is headed by the United Nations NGO United Religions Initiative which the ELS, WELS and LCMS have been supporting through Thrivent Financial For Lutherans for many years. Because the Lutheran Synods have rejected Christ and His Chief doctrine of Justification solely By Faith Alone in favor of their man made doctrine of Universal Objective Justification, they have naturally been serving the god of this world and not the Triune God of Scripture. Now there's just the messy little task of cleansing the world of it's population.

http://www.naturalnews.com/038407_ammunition_homeland_security_civil_war.html

Brett Meyer said...

Matthew 24:22, "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Mark 16:16, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

John 3:36, "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."

Mark 13:13, "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Matthew 24:13, "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Christ's continued blessings be upon you dear Lito and your family.

James 5:11, "Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy."

In Christ,
Brett

Joe Krohn said...

Brett...I will give you this...UOJ taught incorrectly will probably lead to a universalism that will graft the American sects politically into the ecumenical religion of the NWO.

But I will maintain that the Justification of all men by the vicarious atonement of all men's sins in Christ's death is outside of us (objectively) and owned by the individual in faith alone. This the correct teaching of the doctrine.

LPC said...

Because the Lutheran Synods have rejected Christ and His Chief doctrine of Justification solely By Faith Alone in favor of their man made doctrine of Universal Objective Justification, they have naturally been serving the god of this world and not the Triune God of Scripture

So true Brett, just a cursory observation of UOJers show they are in to all sorts of things, because once you become a UOJer one's life becomes boring. So what to do? Look for other false causes to while away the time.

Blessings too to you.

LPC

LPC said...

Joe,

Give it up. UOJ is false in the first place so there is no correct way of teaching a false doctrine.

You are making me LOL again.

LPC

Brett Meyer said...

Joe, in what beautiful way have unbelievers ever been justified while they remain under God's wrath and condemnation for their sin? You teach Huberism Joe.

Page 57 of Hunnius' Theses Opposed to Huberianism (available on Amazon.com):

Thesis 7
Outside of faith in Christ and without it, man remains in condemnation, according to John 3, "Whoever does not believe has been judged already.” And again, “Whoever does not believe in the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him.” And Mark 16, “Whoever does not believe will be condemned.” If such a one has already been judged, if the wrath of God remains upon him, if he will be condemned, then in what beautiful way has he been justified? In what splendid manner have his sins been remit­ ted unto him? Indeed, where sins have truly been remitted, there all wrath and condemnation are gone (Rom. 8). "Blessed are they whose sins have been remitted" (Psalm 32). Now then, are all men blessed? Even unbelievers? Turks? Reprobate Jews?

Joe Krohn said...

Brett, you are continuing to present UOJ in the wrong manner.

Brett Meyer said...

Joe, in no sense does Scripture or the Lutheran Confessions ever refer to unbelievers being justified, forgiven or saved.

Any attempt to teach that unbelievers are anything but under God's wrath and condemnation perverts God's Law and Gospel.

Hunnius clearly speaks from history to the teachers of the false gospel of UOJ.

Rydecki quoting Hunnius, "In the introduction to the Theses, Hunnius writes, "In this book, [Huber] not only miserably and ineptly hi­ jacks and most violently twists the apostolic text with his dreams and deliria, but he also, in unbridled fashion, seeks, beyond all rhyme and reason, to rub the scab of Calvinism off of me, most wantonly inventing that which he knows full well to be made up by him in his own study. What does one expect from such propen­ sity for fabrication, by which, perhaps, he tries to outdo his own father by whom he writes and speaks?""

Huber's Universal Justification which Hunnius correctly describes as a fabrication of Satan is the same doctrine which the Lutheran Synod's teach and which you defend. There is no such teaching in Scripture or the BOC. It requires man's reason performing rational gymnastics to establish this false gospel.

The clear and direct Word of Scripture does not teach it.

LPC said...

Joe,

I have always seen Brett quote from the UOJ teachers, using their own words and explanations so please wake up, UOJ is not hard to be missed if one goes to LC-MS Brief Statement of 1932, Article 17.

As they say "from the horse's mouth".

Keep on believing (your own interpretation in your own mind). That will give you comfort (false comfort that is).

LPC

Joe Krohn said...

"17. Holy Scripture sums up all its teachings regarding the love of God to the world of sinners, regarding the salvation wrought by Christ, and regarding faith in Christ as the only way to obtain salvation, in the article of justification. Scripture teaches that God has already declared the whole world to be righteous in Christ, Rom. 5:19; 2 Cor. 5:18-21; Rom. 4:25; that therefore not for the sake of their good works, but without the works of the Law, by grace, for Christ's sake, He justifies, accounts as righteous, all those who that is, believe, accept, and rely on, the fact that for Christ's sake their sins are forgiven. Thus the Holy Ghost testifies through St. Paul: "There is no difference; for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus," Rom. 3:23, 24. And again: "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the Law," Rom. 3:28."

Lito, faith is not disregarded in this statement. In fact, the objective declaration of righteousness is framed between statements of faith. There is no question when read in context.

"...that God has already declared the whole world to be righteous in Christ..." does not mean that the world is in Christ, but that in Christ is the world's righteousness that is received in faith. This is what article 17 of the Brief Statement means, Lito...in context.

I have done some heinous things in my life, Lito. It was not until this doctrine of the absolution of all the world's sins in the death of Christ sunk in that I finally had comfort. For you guys to condemn this Biblical and BoC teaching that I am only forgiven if I have the right faith, when my faith is the wrong faith so many times is quite damning and dangerous.

Brett Meyer said...

Joe, I disagree with your teaching and confession of the false gospel of Universal Objective Justification.

The statement you lean on in the above quote from the BOC to prove universal absolution is in fact all part of one sentence as can be plainly seen.

"Scripture teaches that God has already declared the whole world to be righteous in Christ, Rom. 5:19; 2 Cor. 5:18-21; Rom. 4:25; that therefore not for the sake of their good works, but without the works of the Law, by grace, for Christ's sake, He justifies, accounts as righteous, all those who that is, believe, accept, and rely on, the fact that for Christ's sake their sins are forgiven."

Only those who believe in Christ are accounted righteous. If you only take the first part of the whole statement leading up to the Bible verses then you have your UOJ but the sentence doesn't end there and to teach universal absolution is blasphemy against Christ.

You have taken all of those faithful passages out of context to prove your man-made doctrine and doing so have placed yourself on the wrong side of Revelations.

The BOC confirms my contention here:
"Also, 71] "but we maintain this, that properly and truly, by faith itself, we are for Christ's sake accounted righteous, or are acceptable to God. And because "to be justified" means that out of unjust men just men are made, or born again, it means also that they are pronounced or accounted just."
http://www.bookofconcord.org/defense_4_justification.php

You disregard Confesssional stalwart Hunnius condemnation of your doctrine and the faithful BOC in context to your own peril.

Joe Krohn said...

Brett, Lito was referring to Article 17 of the Brief Statement. That is what the quote is. I would think that you would have caught that. Furthermore it is 'Revelation' without an 's'. Once the Holy Spirit has convicted the unbeliever and he is sorry for his sin, this is not justification, but sanctification. You posed a question concerning sanctification on another blog about babies who die without a physical baptism. You never responded to my answer...

Brett Meyer said...

I didn't respond because your answer was in error. You are unable to correctly articulate Christian doctrine. By your faith in a false gospel and a different way to righteousness before God you are not led by the Holy Ghost and stand under the wrath and condemnation of God.

You attribute an unbelievers sorrow for sin as sanctification. This is blatantly wrong.

Only those who have faith in Christ are sanctified by Christ's atonement - Christ's payment for the world's sins and is not synonymous with justification.

Joe, your rejection of the Chief Article of Christian faith has left you floundering.

John 17:19, "And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth."

Acts 20:32, "And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the world of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified."

Acts 26:18 - sanctification is only through faith.

1 Corinthians 1:2
1 Corinthians 6:11

Hebrews 2:11, "For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,"

My comments concerning your quote still stand and simply become the best construction that can be placed on the Brief Statement.

Galatians 5:4, "Christ is become no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."

God declares that Christ is of no effect unto those justified by the Law, unto the entire world of unbelievers while they stand outside of faith rejecting the faith and Gospel of Christ.

Joe Krohn said...

Your reading and comprehension are appalling, Brett.

Brett Meyer said...

Joe,
Above you state, "Once the Holy Spirit has convicted the unbeliever and he is sorry for his sin, this is not justification, but sanctification."

Unbeliever....sorry for his sins...sanctification.

This is false teaching Joe.

Scripture: Hebrews 2:11, "For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,"

Brett Meyer said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Joe Krohn said...

I saw that video...very disturbing. It reminds me of the reporting and video that seemed to disappear when 911 went down during the first few hours. Did you hear Obama's speech before signing the bill today? How he called on pastors to further his agenda? We are in the last days..

LPC said...

Makes me wonder now why there is no more report on the other children who died in the incident, what about their funerals etc.