tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post3813403682584963592..comments2024-02-27T00:11:57.219+11:00Comments on Extra Nos: Purgatorial musingsLPChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-46862907857919368642009-11-15T11:59:48.919+11:002009-11-15T11:59:48.919+11:00That's a good question. One can only speculate...That's a good question. One can only speculate. I might venture to say that applying capital punishment to such a murderer could give him the chance to make amends to his victim, if any can be made, sooner rather than later.joel in ganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-34524517749021936522009-11-14T20:22:30.764+11:002009-11-14T20:22:30.764+11:00Sorry for the late response Joel,
Been busy with ...Sorry for the late response Joel,<br /><br />Been busy with the Maier discussion.<br /><br />Agree indeed, our analogies fail, it only approximates. But here is the reasoning I have seen RC folk do, they make the analogy the reality!<br /><br />So they posit that purgatory must be real on the basis of analogy.<br /><br />On another note, if a sinner guilty of murder becomes a Christian, what could he restore? If restoration is life for life then where does that go, I ask?<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-28394168105221979572009-11-13T12:27:00.945+11:002009-11-13T12:27:00.945+11:00Well, I suppose the strength of MacDonald's pi...Well, I suppose the strength of MacDonald's pious speculation is the analogy it makes between this life and how the salvation effected by Christ works out in our lives on a practical level and the life of the world to come. Of course, nobody on this side of glory knows how far such an analogy might apply, if at all.joel in ganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-27525366751190255132009-11-12T09:48:49.233+11:002009-11-12T09:48:49.233+11:00Hi Joel,
Absence from the body is presence with t...Hi Joel,<br /><br />Absence from the body is presence with the Lord, right?<br /><br />Also the sin I commit against my fellow man is first a sin against God.<br /><br />For the case of Zaccheus, he restored what he stole in his lifetime.<br /><br />So by Jesus' death, he pays my sin against God and Man (which is again a sin against God).<br /><br />That is my take on it. Anything that might going on in your mind?<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-44134594256776966672009-11-12T09:06:23.273+11:002009-11-12T09:06:23.273+11:00George MacDonald, who probably influenced C.S. Lew...George MacDonald, who probably influenced C.S. Lewis' thinking on purgatory, seemed to favor the idea that in the hereafter we will have opportunity to make amends to those whom we have wronged in this life, similar to when salvation came to Zacchaeus and he promised to make restitution to his victims. Any thoughts on that?joel in ganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-79597645451779058102009-11-12T08:52:33.301+11:002009-11-12T08:52:33.301+11:00SM,
This the conclusion you get with Purgatory.
...SM,<br /><br />This the conclusion you get with Purgatory.<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-52251301725896847032009-11-12T02:15:23.255+11:002009-11-12T02:15:23.255+11:00If Christ did not accomplish everything for me on ...If Christ did not accomplish everything for me on that cross, then He didn't accomplish anything for me on that cross.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16504238047156860312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-77641342012458105892009-11-09T22:19:15.824+11:002009-11-09T22:19:15.824+11:00Indeed. The explanation I read is that both believ...Indeed. The explanation I read is that both believer and unbeliever go there and the first gets fiery cleansed but the other experiences hell. The RC likes to pride himself that it has both/and. So let us try this...<br /><br />They believe it is by faith alone and works also. Two headed monster.<br /><br /><br />We do not mind having two horns of a dilemma, if it is biblicallly sanctioned, but this theory of faith + works clearly does not have logical coherence per biblical data. Jesus paying for our sins and us paying for it ourselves even partially is slap at Jesus.<br /><br />LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-43569695907777433232009-11-09T20:48:49.184+11:002009-11-09T20:48:49.184+11:00Interesting. Humanly speaking, belief in purgatory...Interesting. Humanly speaking, belief in purgatory dovetails quite nicely with the belief that we contribute to our salvation but also with our contemporary fascination with the supernatural and the afterlife (Ghost Whisperer, etc). No wonder Benedict XVI once said, "If purgatory did not exist, we would haev to invent it". He had his finger on the pulse of modern humanity. You'll never starve by giving people what they want.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08978657816767706667noreply@blogger.com