tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post1426514457656465519..comments2024-02-27T00:11:57.219+11:00Comments on Extra Nos: All too easyLPChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-26219223218915375932008-05-17T07:53:00.000+10:002008-05-17T07:53:00.000+10:00Steve,To be brutally frank, that I had people sitt...Steve,<BR/><BR/>To be brutally frank, that I had people sitting under my ministry. <BR/><BR/>In fact the AOG here sought to offer to ordain me. So I was ordained without theological training. Sure I had a science degree but that is not theological.<BR/><BR/>Only then did I went to uni to get a liberal Religious Studies degree. I got a GDipHum. A type of bachelors degree or additional qualifications for those that already have a bachelors degree.<BR/><BR/>I was ordained out of expediency.<BR/><BR/>It was all too easy Steve, just get a following!<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-27287534522445207422008-05-17T07:22:00.000+10:002008-05-17T07:22:00.000+10:00LP,When you were a pastor, what was the basis of y...LP,<BR/><BR/>When you were a pastor, what was the basis of your qualification's?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-45965921755576467732008-05-16T10:04:00.000+10:002008-05-16T10:04:00.000+10:00J.K.Spurgeon is exactly what is not the way the mo...J.K.<BR/><BR/>Spurgeon is exactly what is not the way the modern ones are. Spurgeon may have had no theological training, but he was a student of the Word and this is what the Scripture says a minister should be, he studied to show himself approved.<BR/><BR/>Although I think he missed a few Law and Gospel distinctions, the wisdom he had was because the Scripture had become his companion and friend.<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-23165209437031019822008-05-16T09:47:00.000+10:002008-05-16T09:47:00.000+10:00D.P.She said "Oh".LPCD.P.<BR/><BR/><BR/>She said "Oh".<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-27367415862391100902008-05-16T07:01:00.000+10:002008-05-16T07:01:00.000+10:00There is an anti-intellectualism in many parts of ...There is an anti-intellectualism in many parts of the Church today. In the last installment of the White Horse Inn, many pastors did not or could not teach their church the doctrines of the faith.<BR/><BR/>We no longer here the question in a bible study of "What does this passage mean?" but we hear "What does this passage mean to me?" The subjective has replaced the objective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-80485707338870159142008-05-16T05:44:00.000+10:002008-05-16T05:44:00.000+10:00Good post, LP.Just leave room for a guy who had no...Good post, LP.<BR/><BR/>Just leave room for a guy who had no formal theological education, C. H. Spurgeon. He was self-educated through the reading of many books.<BR/><BR/>There's an exception to every rule not explicitly stated in Scripture.<BR/><BR/>JKJ. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-44748951427224860472008-05-16T05:32:00.000+10:002008-05-16T05:32:00.000+10:00But what was her reply?But what was her reply?Doorman-Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06407399232593479871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-52954929552666114132008-05-15T10:44:00.000+10:002008-05-15T10:44:00.000+10:00LPC,I have no problems in going to the bible. Sin...LPC,<BR/><BR/>I have no problems in going to the bible. Since the BOC is based on the bible, we can cover Lutheran doctrine without going to it. Now, if you get the topics on faith, salvation and the sacraments, then many will have a difficult time defending their position or arguing against ours.<BR/><BR/>For example, many don't believe that we are spiritually and cannot make a decision for Christ since their doctrine is built on the position of one must make a decision for Christ in order to be saved. Christ and Paul both state that it is God who gives us life and the ability to believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-8195327836782016752008-05-15T08:55:00.000+10:002008-05-15T08:55:00.000+10:00Steve X 2,One thing to notice, when you start to d...Steve X 2,<BR/><BR/>One thing to notice, when you start to discuss teachings/doctrine or even a cursory discussion of denominational differences with these folk, they immediately say - lets just go by the Bible.<BR/><BR/>Cliche, no? <BR/><BR/>Amazing, but that is precisely why the differences have to be discussed.<BR/><BR/>When I wrote to my pastor friends about where I now stand, none of them ever questioned or asked why the change?<BR/><BR/>They gave me a hint - discussing what one believes/teaches and confesses is taboo or anti-social like discussing politics.<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-17520339067730429862008-05-15T02:04:00.000+10:002008-05-15T02:04:00.000+10:00Great post , L.P.! Around these parts, you just ne...Great post , L.P.!<BR/> <BR/>Around these parts, you just need a cursory knowledge of the bible and an ability to pick out law passages (after all the flock needs a list of things to do), a couple of nice Hawaiian style shirts and some puka beads, a warehouse with some chairs and a rock(praise)band, a sound system, a catchy name like 'Blue Waters Pacific Coast Fellowhip'(fictional -I think)... and you are a church.<BR/><BR/>I'd say you'd be filling the auditoriun...er..I mean sanctuary in a matter of minutes.<BR/><BR/>Steve Newell, your comments were right on.<BR/><BR/>Thanks!<BR/><BR/> - Steve MartinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-62580072079562194402008-05-14T21:11:00.000+10:002008-05-14T21:11:00.000+10:00For most Christians, it doesn't really matter that...For most Christians, it doesn't really matter that a "pastor" much less a church believes and teaches. It's about how do they feel. <BR/><BR/>When one asks for a doctrinal statement, many pastors and/or churches will provide their statement of beliefs on the piece of paper the size of a recipe card. The Reformers, both Reformed and Reformation, worked very hard to give us great documents such as the Book of Concord, the Westminster Confess, etc. <BR/><BR/>This finds its way to the preaching and teaching that no longer focuses on the doctrine of the Faith but on life issues of the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com