tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post113211599997052567..comments2024-02-27T00:11:57.219+11:00Comments on Extra Nos: A Shot In the FootLPChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-1132262986369508442005-11-18T08:29:00.000+11:002005-11-18T08:29:00.000+11:00Venerable,Please clarify with me. What scriptural ...Venerable,<BR/><BR/>Please clarify with me. What scriptural warrant do RCs use to believe in Papal Infallibility? <BR/><BR/>Also when the pope is sitting ex cathedra and making pronouncements there, is it not possible for him to teach heresy at that particular point? What scriptural guarantee is used by RC to believe this?<BR/><BR/>I alluded to the warnings of Paul and now Peter also in 2 Peter 2 of the possibility of false teachers. You are sure that the pope can never be a false teacher?<BR/><BR/>I am arguing against the principle of faith - Papal Infallibility the same way that RCs can argue against Sola Scriptura.<BR/><BR/>So I am not being chicky when I ask the above questions. Feel free to instruct me by answering some questions as to why Papal Infallibility is a scriptural doctrine and it should be practiced.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, would you consider Gerry Matatics a heretic (in your opinion). As far as you can tell, does the RC consider him a heretic and does he deserve to be excommunicated?LPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-1132214021871844572005-11-17T18:53:00.000+11:002005-11-17T18:53:00.000+11:00I've just had another quick thought.You will recal...I've just had another quick thought.<BR/><BR/>You will recall how I've referred to the Bible as the gift to Christians (from the tradtions of the hierarchical Church Jesus Christ established, but clearly as I've said, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit).<BR/><BR/>Well, papal infallibility on issues of faith and morals is in reality nothing other than Christ's blessed gift - and promise - to His post-Resurrection Church.Venerable Aussiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683169420503054927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-1132213628274630022005-11-17T18:47:00.000+11:002005-11-17T18:47:00.000+11:00Look, Mr Cruz, your whole post here unfortunately ...Look, Mr Cruz, your whole post here unfortunately demonstrates that, like many Protestants, you do not have the slightest understanding of the meaning of papal infallibility. And I mean this not as a slight to you. I just think that it is sad that you just misunderstand what Jesus Christ intended for the visible Church He established.<BR/><BR/>Again it is worth reading (as I’ve been doing lately) the letters of early Christians. Following the establishment of the Church upon the Rock of Peter, Jesus Christ made this promise: “the gates of Hell will not prevail” against His Church (Matt 16:18). The early Christians understood Christ’s words clearly, and, as the hierarchical Church envisioned by Christ grew and spread, they could rejoice in the knowledge that the Church would NEVER apostasize by teaching heresy. They knew (as properly catechised Catholics of today should know) that, as St Paul said, the Church is “the pillar and foundation of the truth” (1 Tim 3:15). If it taught heresy – ie if it solemnly defined as true a FALSE teaching on faith and morals – then it would cease to be the Church.<BR/><BR/>If you can understand this, then you have the key to understanding papal infallibility.<BR/><BR/>(And to help you clear up some of the confusion - Does it mean Popes can’t sin? No! Does it mean that if they say it’s better to have Mass in Latin than in English I have to agree? No! Does it mean that St Paul can’t disagree with St Peter? Of course not!! Does it mean that if a Pope says everyone should barrack for Collingwood we have to follow him? You bet we don’t!)<BR/><BR/>Cheers.Venerable Aussiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683169420503054927noreply@blogger.com