tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post9093792308715093802..comments2024-02-27T00:11:57.219+11:00Comments on Extra Nos: Are they the same?LPChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-23757252437120762892008-02-04T10:17:00.000+11:002008-02-04T10:17:00.000+11:00Thanks for the reference.LPCThanks for the reference.<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-9371917027692735982008-02-04T08:13:00.000+11:002008-02-04T08:13:00.000+11:00LP Cruz wrote: "Where are in the BoC, it is implie...LP Cruz wrote: <I>"Where are in the BoC, it is implied that conversion is what God does for sure."</I><BR/><BR/>(4) 3. God the Holy Spirit, however, does not bring about conversion without means. For this purpose He uses the preaching and hearing of God's Word, as it is written in Romans 1:16, the Gospel "is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes." Also Romans 10:17 says, "Faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ". It is God's will that His Word should be heard and that a person's ears should not be closed (Psalms 95:8). With this Word the Holy Spirit is present and opens hearts, so that people (like Lydia in Acts 16:14) pay attention to it and are converted only through the Holy Spirit's grace and power, <B>who alone does the work of converting a person.</B> (Emphasis mine) -- Formula Epitome II. 4,5Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-9240349149988535882008-02-03T01:41:00.000+11:002008-02-03T01:41:00.000+11:00But is a good swimmer I fear.But is a good swimmer I fear.David Cochranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08632064391675580145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-70663420253207477042008-02-02T09:25:00.000+11:002008-02-02T09:25:00.000+11:00D.P.It got drowned when the man got baptized?LPCD.P.<BR/><BR/>It got drowned when the man got baptized?<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-50182255468797100442008-02-02T01:27:00.000+11:002008-02-02T01:27:00.000+11:00Where'd that old man go?Where'd that old man go?Doorman-Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06407399232593479871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-48594856941259965352008-01-31T15:11:00.000+11:002008-01-31T15:11:00.000+11:00Thanks for this JK, they are good succinct way of ...Thanks for this JK, they are good succinct way of looking at things.<BR/><BR/>I do note that in the BoC, they place regeneration after faith/justification. The BoC does not have an ordo saludis as such. However, my comment is that if regeneration is placed prior to justification, the faith is the result of sanctification leading to justification. What I mean is that faith is just one of the good things that a changed heart does. <BR/><BR/>In Calvinistic scheme of ordo saludis regeneration happens before all things, although in the old Calvinistic confessions, they do not have such an elaboration, I can not recall seeing such in the Heidelberg/Belgic confession.<BR/><BR/>Where are in the BoC, it is implied that conversion is what God does for sure.<BR/><BR/>We can discuss that later, but I find that if every good things happens after justification, the a good heart which is regeneration happens after that - so BoC seems logical to me.<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-7916641850238991012008-01-31T11:20:00.000+11:002008-01-31T11:20:00.000+11:00LPC,The Atonement is a multi-faceted doctrine that...LPC,<BR/><BR/>The Atonement is a multi-faceted doctrine that will keep us all in reverent discussion and argument for the rest of our lives.<BR/><BR/>Justification is what God does to the believer. Propitiation is what the Atonement does to God. Expiation is what the Atonement does to us. Reconciliation is what happens when those three things occur. All of this is decided in eternity past in the mind of God through Election. The Atonement is earned by Christ extra nos. It is applied to us by the Spirit (effectual calling). It is accepted by us because of a change God makes in our hearts (regenration).<BR/><BR/>J. K.J. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.com