tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post3341865050757700368..comments2024-02-27T00:11:57.219+11:00Comments on Extra Nos: I did not know Piepkorn got tried[sic], no cited.LPChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-53285850446590690902008-10-29T20:51:00.000+11:002008-10-29T20:51:00.000+11:00Sorry, 'Sam was correct' is what I should have sai...Sorry, 'Sam was correct' is what I should have said.<BR/>Also, from reading his essays, Piepkorn was much more consciously Lutheran than those today who cite him as an influence - in my opinion, anyway. He knew a lot more about the Lutheran tradition than they do too. His knowledge was encyclopedic, and extended to quoting the confessions from memory in Latin!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-3409318438572959612008-10-29T17:22:00.000+11:002008-10-29T17:22:00.000+11:00Pr. M.Being "honorably retired" would be a way of ...Pr. M.<BR/><BR/>Being "honorably retired" would be a way of saying - we are forcing you to retire, this is a kind and better way than defrocking or firing people.<BR/><BR/>It is kinda is close to the honor of being "honorably discharged".<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the info/input.<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-79257811295322004532008-10-29T16:31:00.000+11:002008-10-29T16:31:00.000+11:00Lito,My understanding is Piepkorn was actually pro...Lito,<BR/>My understanding is Piepkorn was actually promoted to an administrative position at the seminary after the 1973 Conevention - I guess that was a way of getting him out of the classroom - then later he resigned rather than be "honourably retired". Swan is correct, no trial. <BR/>MHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-88493352008521811522008-10-24T22:43:00.000+11:002008-10-24T22:43:00.000+11:00Thanks for the clarification James.Because I am no...Thanks for the clarification James.<BR/><BR/>Because I am not an American Lutheran, my interest is more on what happened to Piepkorn rather than what happened to the Seminex controversy.<BR/><BR/>Yes if the board refused to clear his name therefore it goes with out saying that they find the request contrary to their finding, they must have found something wrong with his teachings.<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-55706482218742834232008-10-24T22:07:00.000+11:002008-10-24T22:07:00.000+11:00The source I cited notes that "the Board refused h...The source I cited notes that "the Board refused his request to clear his name, but after death Concordia Seminary offered to declare Piepkorn 'honorably retired.' His family refused.<BR/><BR/>So, Piepkorn was cited, and obviously the refusal of the board to clear his name at one point must mean they considered him guilty.<BR/><BR/>The Seminary tried to induce him to retire, whereas Piepkorn tendered his resignation. <BR/><BR/>My apologies for stating he was "removed"- but, it is quite obvious the Seminary strove to have him removedJames Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-48759336617506025402008-10-24T14:59:00.000+11:002008-10-24T14:59:00.000+11:00Sam,I corrected the title of my post, in line with...Sam,<BR/><BR/>I corrected the title of my post, in line with the Preus quote, he was cited for false teaching, correct? but not tried.LPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-24621047384472294852008-10-24T14:44:00.000+11:002008-10-24T14:44:00.000+11:00There was no trial. Read the quotation that he pro...There was no trial. Read the quotation that he provides. I guarantee you that there was no trial and that no one was removed. Professors were questioned and they provided written responses. All professors (except one or two whose contracts were not renewed) taught up until the moratorium on teaching and the subsequent walkout.<BR/><BR/>I would encourage you to read "Seminary in Crisis" by Paul Zimmerman.samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06583466460892038214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-6225636896500685922008-10-24T13:14:00.000+11:002008-10-24T13:14:00.000+11:00Sam,Swan is quoting JAO Preus. Do you mean JAO Pre...Sam,<BR/><BR/>Swan is quoting JAO Preus. Do you mean JAO Preus should have checked his facts or do you mean this for Swan?<BR/><BR/>Do you think JAO Preus' comments accurate?<BR/><BR/>I only heard of the there was a controversy called Seminex I do not know the details but my focus is on the quote of JAO Preus.<BR/><BR/>LPCLPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352627830833515548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15967712.post-52130993918084751892008-10-24T12:53:00.000+11:002008-10-24T12:53:00.000+11:00Piepkorn was not removed as a member of the facult...Piepkorn was not removed as a member of the faculty. The walkout happened in 1974. He died in 1973. This guy needs to check his facts.<BR/><BR/>He actually passed away at a barber shop right by the seminary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com